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After months of rumors, speculation and official teases, RIM's BlackBerry's first full-touch BlackBerry 10 device the Z10 is finally official.

http://www.esato.com/news/blackberry-q10-and-z10-announced-2398




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Posted: 2013-01-30 17:50:47
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It's really not about Z10, it's about BB10. What do you guys think about the new OS. I think it's good but nothing new. I like the swipe flow of the overall UI but notifications has let down big time. Still need to see the phone properly.
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Posted: 2013-01-30 18:20:18
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It just smells of too little, too late to me.

Ive never been a fan of BBs, or RIM, I very much doubt their new OS will tempt me either. Clearly they've put thought and effort into it and it will probably be popular with business types again. But with the general public ? Doubtful. Unless you're into organised riots.
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Posted: 2013-01-30 19:26:03
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Im actually excited by the OS not so much by the hardware, the Z10 is exactly the same design as the Alpha device, i thought they were going to atleast make it look more classy, and have a 4.5inch display, 4.2 is tiny.

Love the true multitasking, here's an OS mini preview by GSMArena:

A look inside the new BlackBerry 10 mobile OS
www.gsmarena.com/a_look_insid[....]rry_10_mobile_os-news-5449.php
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Posted: 2013-01-30 20:22:28
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I'll try to fairly respond to this and also to etaab's echo of the internet 'too little too late'.

This is more than just about BB10; but if you need full details see my last few posts specific to the entire infrastructure (not an ecosystem but its much more) about this.

what's REALLY new:
1. No other smartphone can compete with word prediction, recognition, substition and autotext (renamed). None!
^ if you've used a BB of old for more than 6mths, especially in a business setting, you'll know what this is vs Android/ iOS/Windows Phone/Symbian (ALL flavors of each mentioned).

2. No other smartphone allows you to a) set 3/4 languages, and b) allow you to type fluently between them, mid-sentence on the fly and correctly adjust the words/phrases properly in context and structure - NONE!!

3. MDM's use a common sales pitch that NEVER is true in real business world use ...
"You can keep corporate data separate from personal data and remove corporate data without affecting person content"
^ Sandboxing is ONLY way to do this on Android, iOS, Windows Phone, or Symbian. GoodTechnologies does this.
I'll define: you get a corporate email with several attachments or just one. You save the attachment. Now said document/file, picture/video/audio is on your mobile device. HOW in the WORLD is the MDM solution to know that its corporate or personal without sandboxing?! BES10 will do this for iOS/Android/Windows Phone just like GoodTechnologies. However ... on BB10 the kernel of the OS being QNX can identify and "house" said content with markers - if you will (tags for lamen terms) of personal/business content - irregardless of where you save this! You can combine IT Policy's to specifically restrict ALL apps/RIM's or 3rd party to not access your Contacts = either AT ALL, ALL allowed, or specify with prompt on each connect for you to select 1 or multiple to be allowed. This is system wide. I can restrict BOX.net/SkyDrive/DropBox/Twitter/Wordpress etc from accessing corporate attachments, forwarding emails, or saving content to upload to unauthorized servers. now ... this can be done as well by the end user for personal content!
This has NEVER been done before by any other manufacturer or OS vendor - YES not even Google.

4. The kernel allows for a specific component to crash and restart without affecting other components:
So the WiFi stack fails for whatever reason .. it crashes (its not really an app you can interact with per say a setting switch really) it gets auto rebooted - does this affect your file upload to dropbox? not when you have HSPA/4G/EDGE/GPRS data connectivity, nor does this affect you accessing files.

5. Applications or services have API's that are accessible by the core OS by default which you can control ~ even for consumers.

6. Media Library for purchase/rent matches iTunes plethora of content even some underground content that iTunes misses is available (try a search). iTunes still is the premier of only content for purchase - bittorrent and irc etc well we know about that loveliness .

7. RIM is using QNX far beyond BB10 ... its an infrastructure and its not just in cars but also the US Military ... their drones use this Real-Time Kernel (don't believe me, goto qnx's home page & look it up).

Does any know of ANY other NON networking company with an infrastructure tied into more than 200 wireless carriers?!
(Ericsson, Siemen's Nokia, Motorola, etc make the networks that global/regional wireless carriers run on ... yet RIM has APN's/GGSN's that combine not just to carriers or to RIM's NOC but also to internet services - think standard protocol's allow RIM to querry/verify/bind to a POP3/IMAP web based email account. (telnet is just the start of how this is done)

The last paragraph above is not new RIM has been doing this for other 15yrs; and is still a leader of immense efficiency. Now combine this with the paragraph below and think GPS telemetry, driving, MMI mapping systems, think elderly falling in the house and injured auto assistant calls, siezure from children, severe allergies (peanut's with kids needing an Epipen; fridge having sensors with any food placed in a region tagged for this and when removed has code yellow alert for monitoring and if a kid drops heart rate drops ... emergency call is contacted (what if you're late coming home due to multiple streams of traffic that the NOC or just routes couldn't avoid)?!??

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that Lenovo is STUPID for being interested in purchasing RIM at a time when their stock is DOUBLE of what their lowest firesale price was just 3mths ago?! The bigger question is a) will the Canadian Federal Gov't allow such a sale to a foreign company with so much security with other nations/content at stake? b) will the USA Gov't whom uses BB's allow it?! Doubtful. If RIM fails you can be sure a huge stake will be purchased by Gov and then sold off to Canadian companies for the sensitive stuff.
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Posted: 2013-01-31 03:04:22
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Blackberry Z10 is Available in the U.K from tomorrow (friday 1st Feb) from £50 on a 24-month 4G contract.

http://us.blackberry.com/smar[....]ackberryz10&lpos=us:bb:devices


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Posted: 2013-01-31 10:46:13
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And available from today @ CarphoneWarehouse : Pay monthlyFREE phone from £36 per month Upgrades FREE phone from £36 per month and SIM free £479.95

http://www.carphonewarehouse.[....]LACKBERRY-Z10?colourCode=WHITE
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Posted: 2013-01-31 10:57:12
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After UIQ, webOS and Meego this is definitely my favourite OS.

I, however, feel RIM... err, I meant to say BlackBerry, still has a few more firmware updates to completely make this the best OS available. At this stage it just matches the others, though in some areas it is better.

Can't wait for experiencing what I consider a superior OS.
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Posted: 2013-01-31 16:56:56
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If you wonder why the BlackBerry OS was delayed twice, the RIM European Managing Director has the answer to that. Or maybe not

http://youtu.be/V5l8bdaOMaA
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Posted: 2013-02-01 00:47:10
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Every store I go into the staff say they are overwhelmed with customers wanting the new BB phones

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Posted: 2013-02-04 17:57:21
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