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randomuser Posts: > 500

Full Size camera samples.

http://www.sogi.com.tw/newfor[....]cle_list.aspx?Topic_id=6209481

Just average IMO.
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Posted: 2013-02-20 04:45:29
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On 2013-02-20 00:02:57, etaab wrote:
Stereo speakers on a flagship again ? About time !

Lets face it, we all want to say it, its better than the Xperia Z.

Better benchmark scores with a better up to date chipset, better skin in Sense, intriguing camera and it'll still be getting up to date updates more often after Sony give up on their device.

Oh and well done HTC on not feeling it necessary to go crazy with increasing the screen size. Anything more than 5" is too big now.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-02-19 23:04 ]



Strange. I couldn't find anything that the new HTC is better than Xperia Z especially from customer point of view. I don't think a customer will choose based on a tad different in terms of benchmark. Customer will choose based on the responsiveness (lag free, fluidic). There is no different between the two.

I believe, the first thing a customer will look is the look of a device. Most people will choose based on the look and sony xperia Z got this covered.
Next, maybe they will look into the built quality. Premium feeling. Sony Xperia Z got this covered.
Next, they will look into the touch response (how smooth the touch) and a lag free phone will always be preferred. Sony Xperia Z got this covered.
Next, They will look into the display quality. The sharpness etc. Sony got this covered.
Next, small portion of people will look into the camera quality, features and how easy to take picture. Sony got this covered.

and with additional features like water and dust resistance (if marketed correctly) will seal the deal.

However, all of this will not happen if the marketing is not good. The only thing that is required is marketing/adverts.
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Posted: 2013-02-20 05:16:02
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On 2013-02-19 20:39:20, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Incredible stuff by HTC, sounds like they've gone all out, and its being released soon after announcement, shows that they are serious unlike some other OEMs.

So thats the 1st major Android flagship outed, now we have to just see what LG and Samsung bring in the Optimus G Pro and GS4 respectively.



Cheap shot at Sony? If so, the XZ coming out a month after announcement isnt too bad really.

And the 1st major flagship this year? Um, XZ? Sony isnt exactly a small company. Sure they dont sell as many handsets and may make less money. But they are sure as hell a bigger company than the likes of ZTE, Huawei, if thats the class you are putting Sony in, that is. They're even bigger than LG and HTC when it comes to brand recognition.

edit: I dont care if its directed at Sony, I for one use a Blackberry, just dont agree with what you said

edit 2: Moving onto the phone itself, specs sound ace, I just dont like the look?? HTC's design language has changed a tiny bit here, but I would have liked to see a complete redesign. Too many of their phones are looking very similar.

And I hope for HTC's sake the reception is on par with other handsets. That One S of theirs and a couple other aluminium handsets were really not up to scratch in terms of reception. (not just an issue with HTC either)

Finally, all this talk of 'better handsets' is highly subjective. Of course there are handset better equipped than others, but defo doesnt make them 'better'. All comes down to how we use our phones, what features we require etc etc. I think the processing power found in the XZ, the s4 pro, is more than enough for current uses in a phone. I just dont get what people need that extra oomph for, benchmark bragging rights? If not, than what else? Honestly, an s4 pro or equivalent will handle all tasks just fine, even on a full hd screen. Sure the CPU's are becoming more efficient, but id prefer manufacturers work battery tech.
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2013-02-20 07:31 ]

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Posted: 2013-02-20 08:17:53
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randomuser Posts: > 500

Oh please, get real.

HTC's Q1 sales target is half a million. Sony sold more Z's than that in a single WEEK in Japan.

Last year, Xperia S sold a lot more than Htc One X + One S + OneX+ combined. And we all know Xperia S was way behind One X/OneS/One X+ hardware wise. Z and One are not THAT different.

So just like how Sony Xperia Z is no threat to Galaxy S4 in terms of sales, HTC One is no threat to Sony Xperia Z.

Anyway I do like this handset. A good but inadequate flagship IMO with design copied from Blackberry Z10, Iphone 5 andSony Xperia Ion

Ultrapixel ? FAIL. An average joe isn't gonna understand what ultrapixel is, they will walk into a store and see 4mp - Instant turn off !!!
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Posted: 2013-02-20 08:59:19
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On 2013-02-20 08:59:19, randomuser wrote:
Oh please, get real.

HTC's Q1 sales target is half a million. Sony sold more Z's than that in a single WEEK in Japan.

Last year, Xperia S sold a lot more than Htc One X + One S + OneX+ combined. And we all know Xperia S was way behind One X/OneS/One X+ hardware wise. Z and One are not THAT different.



If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down
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Posted: 2013-02-20 09:30:23
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2013-02-20 00:02:57, etaab wrote:
Stereo speakers on a flagship again ? About time !

Lets face it, we all want to say it, its better than the Xperia Z.

Better benchmark scores with a better up to date chipset, better skin in Sense, intriguing camera and it'll still be getting up to date updates more often after Sony give up on their device.

Oh and well done HTC on not feeling it necessary to go crazy with increasing the screen size. Anything more than 5" is too big now.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-02-19 23:04 ]



+1 exactly. They seem to have paid a lot of attention to detail with this one, from materials used to the audio amps powering the stereo speakers, this is the Htc i know and like, and they have gone with one of the best chipsets which seems to have demolished Sony's effort.

Must admit, I do wish they had bumped up the screen size by a bit, wouldnt hurt to have bumped it up to 4.85inch. Glad they have a 64GB variant this time though, i feel thats part of what let them down with the One X.

Randomuser

Considering the One's wide availability when its released? It shouldn't have a problem passing the XZ's sales, Sonys Japan sales are a poor way of gauging how a device will do internationally, i remember people thinking the Xperia X10 would be a major success due to its sales in Japan.
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Posted: 2013-02-20 09:43:16
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Indiandawg Posts: > 500

Sorry, HTC One does not beat XZ. Even the new UI is nothing great. What I really like is the Dual Stereo Speakers.

What are you'll always talking about chipsets, who gives a damn? If a smartphone can function smooth with a particular chipset then what's the problem? Look at BB Z10, It's a dual core and it's still very fluid. Talking about XZ, there is no lag found yet.

I don't think HTC One has anything exclusive besides the beats audio which is indeed good and I appreciate that. Also it's got IR blaster which is a great add on for lot of people. Ultra-Pixel? I'm very much excited to see the samples and if they turn out to be better than 13megapixel, than thank you HTC for starting a new revolution of a better smartphone camera.

Still even after all this I think XZ has a very good design, amazing glass materials and a rich polished UI. It's a beautiful smartphone inside out. I really don't see any better smartphone than XZ as this moment.

Waiting for S4!
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Posted: 2013-02-20 09:52:45
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randomuser Posts: > 500


On 2013-02-20 09:30:23, >500 wrote:
If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down



Sorry if it seemed that way, my post was not directed at you

@Tsepz_GP

Please don't say something that stupid. No point bringing Xperia X10 to the discussion. That was a very old SE device.

HTC One Q1 sales target is 0.5 million. It will be available starting March 15 in various countries. Xperia Z sold 0.6 million in the first week of release in Japan alone (just one country). It would have sold at least 2 million units by the end of Q1 in Japan alone.

And anyway, it's not something I should even discuss. When Xperia S (which was heavily outdated compared to 2012 HTC flagships) beat HTC One X + One S + One X+ combined in terms of sales numbers, Z has absolutely nothing to worry about.

Sadly, another FAIL by HTC.

Not to mention, they might soon get sued by Blackberry/Apple/Sony. Maybe all 3.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:09 ]

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Posted: 2013-02-20 10:03:52
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What do people think of the new Sense? Not liking the look currently, obviously will need to test in real life.
Sadly, it looks like the Bberry Z10.

Also, very surprised the s600 is available, I wasnt expecting it til about mid year, yet HTC and LG have it?

edit: all good randomuser
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2013-02-20 09:10 ]

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Posted: 2013-02-20 10:05:31
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randomuser Posts: > 500

>500

Since LG/HTC want only a few hundred thousand units, Qualcomm would have no problem providing them with s600

LG I couldn't care less, but HTC I do genuinely feel sad for. They were a good brand, sad they are making some silly decisions lately.
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Posted: 2013-02-20 10:10:50
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