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^ well... without a Xenon flash its not really a replacement
But it should provide better IQ if the lens is as good or better than the Zeiss on the 808.
But that 1" sensor is sweet.. is it the Sony one from the RX series ?
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Posted: 2014-09-16 00:24:01
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How good photographer, you know that most of the time we do not use flash, so the absence of Xenon although important, no is somehow essential
Moreover embedded LEICA LENS, OIS, Great Image Sensor and 60 seconds of exposure time ensure formidable nighttime images. In my view, yes it is a replacement to the Nokia 808 PureView Pro only regret that this product will never arrive in South America
P.S: My guess is that this is an image sensor produced by Panasonic itself
[ This Message was edited by: emerson_shei on 2014-09-16 00:22 ]
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Posted: 2014-09-16 01:18:47
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On 2014-09-16 00:24:01, cu015170 wrote:
^ well... without a Xenon flash its not really a replacement
But it should provide better IQ if the lens is as good or better than the Zeiss on the 808.
But that 1" sensor is sweet.. is it the Sony one from the RX series ?
Yep it is the same Sony sensor from the RX series
Really exciting device, but I wish the price was lower.
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Posted: 2014-09-16 03:56:26
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^ That's great news.. that sensor is one of the best in the business! I like the first generation (FSI design) the best to be honest, but the BSI ones are very, very good as well. This should outperform anything else out there by quite a margin, if they did a their job on the optics and the processing right..
Which leads to the price... that sensor is expensive, but it delivers.. so.. you know.. you get what you pay for.
The 808 launched at around $700 in 2012.. so , its not that far off I guess
On 2014-09-16 01:18:47, emerson_shei wrote:
How good photographer, you know that most of the time we do not use flash, so the absence of Xenon although important, no is somehow essential
Moreover embedded LEICA LENS, OIS, Great Image Sensor and 60 seconds of exposure time ensure formidable nighttime images. In my view, yes it is a replacement to the Nokia 808 PureView Pro only regret that this product will never arrive in South America
P.S: My guess is that this is an image sensor produced by Panasonic itself
[ This Message was edited by: emerson_shei on 2014-09-16 00:22 ]
I agree, xenon is not needed for general photography, but you can still use in certain cases. I meant it from a day to day use.. the 808 can truly replace your point & shoot because even at night you can get great shots of friends, family, kids.. whatever. With the Lumix you will be out of luck if you have to take a shot at a night club..
I really don't understand the decision to not include a proper flash considering all the room they had to work with:
808: 123.9 x 60.2 x 13.9 (18 at the hump) mm
Lumix: 135.4 x 68.0 x 15.2 (21.1 at the hump) mm
Of course it has a much larger screen..
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-09-16 04:51 ]
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Posted: 2014-09-16 05:49:22
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On 2014-09-16 03:56:26, randomuser wrote:
On 2014-09-16 00:24:01, cu015170 wrote:
^ well... without a Xenon flash its not really a replacement
But it should provide better IQ if the lens is as good or better than the Zeiss on the 808.
But that 1" sensor is sweet.. is it the Sony one from the RX series ?
Yep it is the same Sony sensor from the RX series
Really exciting device, but I wish the price was lower.
In what source you rely to assert this ?
Has a link to confirm your information to share ? We are happy to have access to it
Otherwise I and everyone else will find that just rests on the assumption that all camera manufacturers that use sensors 1 inch consequently has the same sensor RX series
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Posted: 2014-09-16 06:14:20
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]r-to-fuji-and-samsung-as-well/
Panasonic is already using it on their FZ1000, so most likely the same on this cameraphone.
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Posted: 2014-09-16 06:16:52
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I like this gadget , nice 808 alternative. More info and video about DMC-CM1
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/15/panasonic-lumix-cm1/
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Posted: 2014-09-16 06:28:37
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emerson_shei Posts: > 500
On 2014-09-16 05:49:22, cu015170 wrote:
^ That's great news.. that sensor is one of the best in the business! I like the first generation (FSI design) the best to be honest, but the BSI ones are very, very good as well. This should outperform anything else out there by quite a margin, if they did a their job on the optics and the processing right..
Which leads to the price... that sensor is expensive, but it delivers.. so.. you know.. you get what you pay for.
The 808 launched at around $700 in 2012.. so , its not that far off I guess
On 2014-09-16 01:18:47, emerson_shei wrote:
How good photographer, you know that most of the time we do not use flash, so the absence of Xenon although important, no is somehow essential
Moreover embedded LEICA LENS, OIS, Great Image Sensor and 60 seconds of exposure time ensure formidable nighttime images. In my view, yes it is a replacement to the Nokia 808 PureView Pro only regret that this product will never arrive in South America
P.S: My guess is that this is an image sensor produced by Panasonic itself
[ This Message was edited by: emerson_shei on 2014-09-16 00:22 ]
I agree, xenon is not needed for general photography, but you can still use in certain cases. I meant it from a day to day use.. the 808 can truly replace your point & shoot because even at night you can get great shots of friends, family, kids.. whatever. With the Lumix you will be out of luck if you have to take a shot at a night club..
I really don't understand the decision to not include a proper flash considering all the room they had to work with:
808: 123.9 x 60.2 x 13.9 (18 at the hump) mm
Lumix: 135.4 x 68.0 x 15.2 (21.1 at the hump) mm
Of course it has a much larger screen..
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-09-16 04:51 ]
Really... If the Panasonic DMC-CM1 told with xenon flash, it would be the perfect cameraphone.
But do not whine, after all you are privileged.
Probably this product will be available in the Usa and then you can have spectacular 808 and innovative CM1, when you want in the palm of the hands.
Meanwhile I and other
South Americans, we must content ourselves with the K Zoom and 1020 closest devices with the photographic quality of the former king of cameraphones.
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Posted: 2014-09-16 06:35:09
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I waiting for first camera samples , expected great image quality - Leica is Leica
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Posted: 2014-09-16 06:37:18
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emerson_shei Posts: > 500
Thanks for the quick response
I'm glad to know that the DMC-CM1 will have the same excellent sensor of RX Series, but luckily with the best post processing photographic of Panasonic
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Posted: 2014-09-16 06:39:59
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