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I think it's wrong if it effects their business. Putin is a dangerous man in my view I don't trust him he's very shifty looking
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Posted: 2014-11-06 21:49:00
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On 2014-11-06 19:33:15, difenbaker wrote:
So why the NEED for Tim to make this public? Really what does it benefit him if his life is so - so damn healthy & private?! Who gives a real FAK?! I'd say 'because it's fashionable' ... to shock or be in the "IN" crowd, being gay is like being the new emmo, or sorry better yet yuppy!
I think this is exactly why its getting controversial. Why would he come out now? And why is he so proud? In one of the articles posted above..... there's nothin wrong with being gay, but does he have to brag about it?
Like it or not, Tim is a very public figure, he's like a celebrity in the tech world. Even if he doesn't want it (or he does?) ... children look up to him, he's like a 'mentor' or something like it. And just like any mentor - he has a responsibility to his followers. Which is why Russia thinks... he is sending the "wrong message" to children, by saying he is "proud" to be gay.
a quote from the article above.
"After Apple CEO Tim Cook publicly called for sodomy, the monument was taken down to abide to the Russian federal law protecting children from information promoting denial of traditional family values."
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Another thing, I also saw in one of the articles, ........" If a child sees a man kissing another man on the lips... will Tim say to that child that it's wrong?" Will he still lead by example, and say its wrong, when its clearly something he's okay with?
I think this is one of the roots of the controversy. And is maybe the same reason Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries has the same anti-gay laws... they want to preserve their traditional values?
cheers!
Well said!
I'm glad to participant in an intelligent conversation with the lot of you. Most impressed seeing the different views and comments laid here intelligently.
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Posted: 2014-11-07 06:07:19
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Genuinely surprised at some of the comments in this thread. Why is he "proud"? Because people like Putin and many other homophobes around the world want him to feel ashamed, that's why. Why is he making public statements about this? Because others like him in other parts of the world are having to hide away and risk their lives just to be who they are - and if someone as successful as TC living in a supposedly free country like the US can't talk about it then what hope do others have.
It's very easy to be straight. The vast majority of the world's population are straight. I don't think there are any countries in the world where you get beaten or imprisoned just for being straight. If you happen on the other hand to be gay, and yet despite all the abuse, all the barriers, all the ferocious discrimination and fear that gets put your way, you remain true to yourself, and you take the more difficult road of actually being yourself and encouraging others in the same situation to do the same well, I think that's something to be proud of actually. And I say that as an entirely straight man.
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Posted: 2014-11-30 23:53:45
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@Boinng - Unfortunately the big old US of A aint a free country anymore and the term that its the land of opportunity is pretty much well and truly outdated. I mean look at those hardcore religious groups who hate everyone except themselves and even if you were a foreigner looking to start a new life in America, if your not a so called first class citizen then you are dirt to them. Don't even get me started on having a gun as an essential item in your home lol
P.S. Sorry to go off on another direction but this stuff annoys me.......
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Posted: 2014-12-01 04:05:03
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