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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2017-03-13 22:29:42, aussieland1 wrote:
I don't think that the battery life of LG G6 is that bad especially considering the large screen . I don't think that the announced price and availability in Europe are both bad moves . You can fit larger batteries of course but look what happens with Note 7- if you try to hard you can end up with other problems . This plus the 100 minutes for full charge I think makes it ok


The Note 7 had a larger body yet smaller battery than the S7 Edge which has a slightly larger battery. The problem was that Samsung took a risk with placement of its battery, had it been in the centre it would have been fine.

For those of us who keep our phones for more than a year we need phones with large batteries, constantly charging the phone will reduce it's capacity much faster and make it inconvenient to own that phone in the long run.

This whole thing of making up smaller capacity batteries with faster charging IMO, is pure BS, faster charging should not be a band aid to a small battery,it should just be a great convenience for when your Battery does go flat.

IMO, LG should have at least put a 3500mah battery, if I'm not mistaken LiPo batteries allow for a bit more flexibility in terms of shape, the tech is there, if they weren't being cheapskates they could have used a LiPo battery at 3500mah and made it fit in the body, make it taller like the phone is.
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Posted: 2017-03-14 05:23:10
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aussieland1 Posts: > 500

Tsepz

I am not quite sure what you are getting at , the score om GSMArena said 72 hours which is 3 days. So with a normal usage this is over 2 days say 1.5 days heavier usage - how is this repeated charge ? Considering life of the battery of 509 charges this still means 2 years of battery life . I think you probably mean a problem for heavy users . Also I dont get how fast charge excuse is bs - if battery is run down you can quickly charge it so you can continue to use it

Anyway just to be clear - I am not against large batteries , far from it , I just don't think battery life on G6 is as bad as you make it out to be
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Posted: 2017-03-14 07:56:33
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badassmam Posts: > 500

Even if processors are more efficient the programs are now a lot more intensive particularly games so that levels itself out plus a few years ago people would only be on Facebook but now you're logged onto all sorts and the chances are that you'll peek a lot more at your phone. Anyway, there has to be greater capacity batteries even if you compromise the size of the phone because you're starting to push the limits of ergonomics, by that I mean you can't make a phone that much bigger or smaller because you just won't be able to use it. You should be able to squeeze more into the body and we should be able to demand that from such expensive flagships. At the same time though, some of these Chinese phones have monster batteries but they are no better than an efficient device with small battery. The best way forward is to look at new battery types and materials, possibly a way to recharge the phone without a power source so solar or kinetics. If you look at electric cars they can charge their batteries under braking and that concept is the way forward I think.
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Posted: 2017-03-14 12:53:08
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Ranjith Posts: > 500

Samsung just launched Samsung PAY here in India but im still unable to download it form Play Store since it says my device is incompatible. Is this due to my device having a UAE CSC code? (No Samsung Pay in UAE..but im located in India)

Thanks
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Posted: 2017-03-14 13:08:06
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2017-03-14 07:56:33, aussieland1 wrote:
Tsepz

I am not quite sure what you are getting at , the score om GSMArena said 72 hours which is 3 days. So with a normal usage this is over 2 days say 1.5 days heavier usage - how is this repeated charge ? Considering life of the battery of 509 charges this still means 2 years of battery life . I think you probably mean a problem for heavy users . Also I dont get how fast charge excuse is bs - if battery is run down you can quickly charge it so you can continue to use it

Anyway just to be clear - I am not against large batteries , far from it , I just don't think battery life on G6 is as bad as you make it out to be


The GSMARENA Battery Test is more of a Benchmark of how the hardware fairs, but that final endurance rating isn't something most of us will get, it is just a good idea of where the phones stand amongst each other, most people with WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram alone won't get those figures.

I'm not saying the Battery Life is bad, I'm saying it should be far better, a 72hour GSMARENA Endurance Rating tells me the LG G6 will fair worse than a Galaxy Note 4 that is now 3years old with a smaller battery and 90h Endurance Rating. Should we not be seeing progress here??? All this talk of newer hardware and power saving features but we are not seeing better figures than some 2-3yearold devices.

Last year we saw devices like the Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 3T, Google Pixel XL and S7 Edge come with huge batteries, and all these devices have proven great, the LG G6 should be showing better results surely?


On 2017-03-14 12:53:08, badassmam wrote:
Even if processors are more efficient the programs are now a lot more intensive particularly games so that levels itself out plus a few years ago people would only be on Facebook but now you're logged onto all sorts and the chances are that you'll peek a lot more at your phone. Anyway, there has to be greater capacity batteries even if you compromise the size of the phone because you're starting to push the limits of ergonomics, by that I mean you can't make a phone that much bigger or smaller because you just won't be able to use it. You should be able to squeeze more into the body and we should be able to demand that from such expensive flagships. At the same time though, some of these Chinese phones have monster batteries but they are no better than an efficient device with small battery. The best way forward is to look at new battery types and materials, possibly a way to recharge the phone without a power source so solar or kinetics. If you look at electric cars they can charge their batteries under braking and that concept is the way forward I think.


This is exactly my point. There is only so much software can do if the hardware is not up to scratch, we need larger batteries, better software and indeed possibly a way to keep these devices going outside of having to plug in all the time.

Even as a heavy user I see my friends​ and family many of whom are more "average users" use their phones a whole lot more to text, read news, check social media, game etc... Apps like Instagram and Snapchat that are heavily used by many "average users" can be absolute power hogs, so smaller batteries will mean a whole lot more charging and much faster deterioration in the Battery capacity.
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Posted: 2017-03-14 16:12:16
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aussieland1 Posts: > 500

Of course the battery can be bigger but again going on your argument that GSMarena is just benchmark we shouldn't judge the battery life untill we use it in real life. People's usage varies. At the same time it is difficult to try and keep the phone slim...I notice LG uses a LCD screen which i thought is not as slim as the amoled (i could be wrong )
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Posted: 2017-03-14 18:30:42
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2017-03-14 18:30:42, aussieland1 wrote:
Of course the battery can be bigger but again going on your argument that GSMarena is just benchmark we shouldn't judge the battery life untill we use it in real life. People's usage varies. At the same time it is difficult to try and keep the phone slim...I notice LG uses a LCD screen which i thought is not as slim as the amoled (i could be wrong )


This obsession with slimmer is better is also what is ruining things for us.

I wouldn't mind a device that is 9-12mm thicknif it has a large battery and great cooling technology to better dissipate heat generated by these newer more powerful yet smaller SoCs.

Xperia X10 was 13mm, with nice curved edges on its back, was fantastic in hand.
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Posted: 2017-03-14 18:36:53
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On 2017-03-14 13:08:06, Ranjith wrote:
Samsung just launched Samsung PAY here in India but im still unable to download it form Play Store since it says my device is incompatible. Is this due to my device having a UAE CSC code? (No Samsung Pay in UAE..but im located in India)

Thanks



Yep that could be it indeed.

The UAE and India have the Exynos, yeah? So it should just be a matter of flashing a Indian ROM with India CSC.
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Posted: 2017-03-14 20:34:35
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Ranjith Posts: > 500

I agree with Tsepz_GP. The battery life on the S7E is pretty sweet. I end my day usually with 10% charge and this is with 4G switched on through out the day, WiFI looking for hotspots in the background, AOD with a colored logo and an average of 2hrs of streaming music via BT earphones.



On 2017-03-14 20:34:35, Tsepz_GP wrote:

On 2017-03-14 13:08:06, Ranjith wrote:
Samsung just launched Samsung PAY here in India but im still unable to download it form Play Store since it says my device is incompatible. Is this due to my device having a UAE CSC code? (No Samsung Pay in UAE..but im located in India)

Thanks



Yep that could be it indeed.

The UAE and India have the Exynos, yeah? So it should just be a matter of flashing a Indian ROM with India CSC.


Thats what I thought but just realized that S-Pay is available in UAE too! So I really dont know why am I restricted. Has any body had issues using their US device in any other country that has S-Pay?

I have emailed Samsung anyway.
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Posted: 2017-03-16 07:22:36
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500

Exynos continues to prove itself, the S7 Edge Exynos seems to be better than the LG G6 and OnePlus 3T Snapdragon 821 according to these GSMArena S8+ Leaked Benchmarks

I had no idea the Exynos 8890 was this powerful

Exynos 8895 Pops Up At Geekbench
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Posted: 2017-03-17 16:54:24
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