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Aivar Posts: > 500

I just looked for the last post of Laffen. Almost two years ago:

2017 Jan 15 22:36 Esato is up again. But there are some issues.

https://www.esato.com/board/v[....]ic=208464&start=45#post3234261
[ This Message was edited by: Aivar on 2018-09-28 07:42 ]

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Posted: 2018-09-28 08:40:19
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Ben.Cook Posts: 103

Like others I still regularly visit... not sure why. Only habits die hard I guess.
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Posted: 2018-10-03 20:39:26
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bahraini Posts: 361


On 2018-09-28 08:40:19, Aivar wrote:
I just looked for the last post of Laffen. Almost two years ago:

2017 Jan 15 22:36 Esato is up again. But there are some issues.

https://www.esato.com/board/v[....]ic=208464&start=45#post3234261
[ This Message was edited by: Aivar on 2018-09-28 07:42 ]



Am sure someone is looking after the forum , or it would be dead long time ago

still hoping someone will answer us here
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Posted: 2018-10-04 05:57:07
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bahraini Posts: 361

I feel bad no one answered us
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Posted: 2018-10-13 16:55:37
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Boinng Posts: 11

I still come back from time to time just to see if this is still here (I was pretty active on here back in the day, fell out with the place and got Laffen to delete my old account some years ago, resurrected myself a while later..)

Masseur was the heart and soul of Esato. Laffen owned it and did the techy bit, but it never would have been half the site it was if not for people like Masseur beavering away on these forums.

Of course it doesn't help that Ericsson and Sony Ericsson are things of the past, and even Sony brand phones are basically nowhere now. When I started posting here originally, Ericsson/SE was an exciting innovator in the emerging mobile market, doing market leading things that made the dominant Nokia look staid and boring, it was an exciting time to be discovering these phones, looking forward to new models, getting to grips with the new features and discussing all this stuff here.. but the harsh fact is that time ended, and both SE and Nokia were dead in the water as soon as the iPhone came out. It just took people a while to realise, that's all.
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Posted: 2018-10-16 09:45:14
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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2018-10-16 09:45:14, Boinng wrote:
...both SE and Nokia were dead in the water as soon as the iPhone came out. It just took people a while to realise, that's all.

You're right they were, but we never would have believed it. Both Nokia and Ericsson were unable to move to the new smartphone age and Sony is clinging on for dear life.

The signs were there though; I saw on a blog called Mobile Opportunity, mention of the flaws in the Symbian smartphone market, how the mobile app community had fallen from the dizzy heights of the Palm days, how Nokia sold plenty of Symbian devices but their customers didn't buy apps and how lots of Symbian customers bought apps, but the sales were too low to make a dent. Steve Jobs saw the massive vacuum sitting there and filled it with a revolutionary UI and a fabulous app developer business model. Game over.

I think Esato's momentum slowed as the Xperia devices went to Android because we no longer needed to come here to discuss the proprietary UI and hardware progression with like minded individuals because the Android user experience is so generic. Combine this with us all getting older and spending less time on forums, and the younger mobile users entering the mobile world via social networking apps and not websites.

Esato needs to transform into an app to survive and it needs to better integrate pics and video into its format. That's where 2018 currently is. A successful Esato app could revive Sony's mobile market and vice versa.

RIP Masseur.
[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2018-12-07 09:52 ]

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Posted: 2018-12-07 10:44:02
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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2018-09-07 21:29:53, bahraini wrote:
...I REALLY hope things change for better, I myself won't mind to give some of my time working in the site...

...but lets start changing things for better for Esato.

I've updated the Visiting NZ thread in my signature. Hopefully people find it via google
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Posted: 2018-12-07 10:50:39
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bahraini Posts: 361

well

Yes things changed , and things should change in Esato too.

Sony and Nokia are weak , but still not dead yet. when they die , still we can discuss other brands or technology.

Most of us came here cuz of SE, but as it's gone doesn't mean Esato shall go too.

For example , why the news section is not updates for about 3 years if not more?
if no one can do it , make it public and am sure many ppl will write and review .


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Posted: 2018-12-08 22:09:39
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bahraini Posts: 361


On 2018-12-07 10:50:39, carkitter wrote:

On 2018-09-07 21:29:53, bahraini wrote:
...I REALLY hope things change for better, I myself won't mind to give some of my time working in the site...

...but lets start changing things for better for Esato.

I've updated the Visiting NZ thread in my signature. Hopefully people find it via google



whats the point my friend if they find it ?
no support like other places
no news
no reviews
and many other nos


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Posted: 2018-12-08 22:14:51
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500

I doubt anyone is looking after the Forum these days, it seems to be on Autopilot.

Around this time of the year the Esato logo would have some snow or something around it to represent Winter in the Northern Hemisphere, but nothing has changed now.

I'm sure Laffen has moved on with his life due to family duties etc... I don't blame him, priorities change as you grow and they may have change for him to.

I think we should prepare for the forum one day simply go down, much like Mobile-Review's English forum side did some years ago.

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Posted: 2018-12-08 23:19:41
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