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michael the mage Posts: > 500

Just curious, does one need a 3G SIM to access and use the 3G Network in Germany and other parts of Europe where UMTS is?

Can one access that network with a regular 2G SIM ?

Thanks
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Posted: 2006-11-17 05:34:05
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Red_Rach Posts: 424

You need a 3g sim.
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Posted: 2006-11-17 06:08:04
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michael the mage Posts: > 500

So one can not even log into 3G and make a regular phone call with that 2GSIM ?

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Posted: 2006-11-17 15:26:18
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goldenface Posts: > 500

You'll find most 3G networks are backed up by a 2G network. If you don't have a 3G sim you will stil be able to call home.

What network are you on btw? T-Mobile?
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Posted: 2006-11-17 15:41:06
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himlims_nl Posts: > 500

usualy the provider can provide you a free umts/3g-simcard
cause you'll be able to make more costs, which is good to the provider
try to contact your providers customersservice
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Posted: 2006-11-17 16:52:34
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goldenface Posts: > 500

Orange UK don't. They make you pay a £5 for one, they made me anyway. T-Mobile sims are already 3G compatible.
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Posted: 2006-11-17 17:04:33
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maxim1 Posts: 1

Most operators in the UK do not use USIM's, if you have a 3g enabled phone, Bobs your uncle and away you go for circuit swicthed calls. If you wish to use packet swiched services then you need to subscribe for what ever data services your opeartor provides 3g release 99 = 64k, 128k & 384K down link. HSDPA QPSK = 1.8Mb down link HSDPA 16QAM = 3.2 Mb down link

Tech3g2000
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Posted: 2006-11-18 18:40:18
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Kimi Posts: 293

In Switzerland you don't need a 3G SIM, mine is 2G and from 1998(!) and works perfectly well with my K610 and my V800 (even Live TV).
So it's just the operators deciding if the force their customers to a new SIM.

@michael the mage:
And I am able to do phonecalls via UMTS in Germany and even data access (of course for a hell of a lot of money).

[ This Message was edited by: Kimi on 2006-11-20 12:03 ]
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Posted: 2006-11-20 13:02:01
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JK Posts: > 500

Nope you dont need it!
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Posted: 2006-11-20 16:01:08
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jplacson Posts: > 500

786 is right, you don't need a 3G SIM... by "SIM" we're talking about the actualy physical SIM card. You do, however, need an account/subscription that is allowed onto the 3G network you intend to use (3G enabled)... and of course, a 3G phone.

If you don't have a 3G enabled SIM/phone, then you will just be using an available GSM network.

Just a note, my SIM is 10 years old, it's an old 8KB SIM, the account is 3G enabled, and I have used 3G with it on my old K600i. I didn't have to swap it in, nor did I have to physically bring it to my provider to activate the 3G.
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Posted: 2006-11-20 16:20:44
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