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Well, as discussed on the 2008 rumors thread, the next SE UIQ announcement may be the last batch of phones based on this platform. i created this thread for the purpose of telling and seeking all readers and SE UIQ loyalists my/their thoughts about the last UIQ phone specifically the specs hardwarewise. well regarding the most argued aspect of any UIQ phone since P990: the CPU i bet it's still going to be a nexperia or any comparable ARM9 cpu but there is something bothering me. could it be that hikaru or whatever name would the last uiq flagship phone be have instead two arm9 processors? since we all know that UIQ is deemed for it's death once symfound platform arrives, SE, instead of using new hardware platform to run their OS UI would probably integrate two arm9 processors which they used on the previous UIQ3 phones for their forthcoming UIQ flagship. just like what Nokia did with their N96: instead of using the latest OMAP chipsets to power it up, they used two arm9 269Mhz processors. in the case of UIQ, 208x2=416Mhz i think this is fast enough for a symbian UIQ phone, but there is one issue remaining, how about the GPU? since nexperia can only render videos maxing out at CIF 30Fps having two powerVr Lite GPUs may drastically boost the performance of the graphics and video. to be honest i don't know much with regards to this but having in mind that desktop PCs employ SLI or CrossFire technology that opens the door for support of two video cards in one platform to further increase the performance of the video/graphics, i come to think that this philosophy may be applicable to smartphones.

having said my thoughts now i would like to know yours, again i am not an expert in this particular respect so if you guys find me getting unrealistic, please bear with me i only shared my opinions

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[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2008-08-17 13:32 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-17 14:30:16
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[meanie]No offence, but why did you create a separate thread for this? I mean, you've already got a wealth of opinions on the matter in the 2008 rumours thread. [/meanie]

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[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2008-08-17 13:36 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-17 14:35:50
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I understand your point matey but I just want to be specific, since the rumors thread covers alot of rumored phones. if you guys find this thread redundant, then i can make a request to lock this instead
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Posted: 2008-08-17 14:48:06
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the last UIQ device to be released by is indeed crucial.
imo it is but right that this thread is created

putting two CPUs is a good and practical idea to boost speed.
THe RAM should also be doubled imo.

may have alot of nexperia stocks. so instead of buying more expensive brand new processors, just maximizw what is in stock.


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[ This Message was edited by: crossmatched on 2008-08-17 14:11 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-17 15:06:41
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while 2 cpu's might be possible on those, but 2 gpu's might not work, unless they tweak it somehow and something about it!
But wasting resources on that they might just put up better chipsets, a single faster processor and better gpu...hopefully
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Posted: 2008-08-17 16:12:19
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Lets think of the fact that SE may have stocked nexperia chips on their warehouse which is supposed to be used for G702 and Paris, but since the two models were cancelled these chips become redundant. so in order to maximize the utilization of these chips SE may have instead use it for the next UIQ phones but this time two chips are implemented just to compensate for the advancements of the platform as well as it's need for a better system performance. while many people would criticize the battery life as the flaw for this approach, having in mind that SE already have batteries as high as 1500mah to compensate for this more power hungry CPU combo. and AFAIK developing a 1500mah battery is less expensive for SE than to invest for a new CPU platform

btw. thanks for sharing your thoughts matey
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Posted: 2008-08-17 16:24:28
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Why would SE use better hardware on a phone featuring a platform which is almost dead? When they couldnt do it with any UIQ phone, what will make them do it with this one?
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Posted: 2008-08-17 16:35:22
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@QVGA

Just what I was thinking. On the other hand, this could be their chance of salvaging whatever is left of their badly tarnished reputation, by giving this device a fitting send off. Would it really hurt to make this as highly specced as it can go considering that it may be the last UIQ device before the Symbian foundation?
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Posted: 2008-08-17 17:06:52
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How do people know if this is the last UIQ anyway? Does that mean the 16GB Walkman would be WM or some sort of A200 touchscreen thing (if that is possible)? I think there will be more UIQ phones for sure. How do people know how many of these chips have in stock when Beibei and Paris are cancelled?

I know hardware is important but there is no point in putting expensive hardware in a phone if it won't use it to its maximum potential. That would be a waste of money. If the G900 were to have a really expensive and fast processor, would it be any use if it only speeds up the time it takes to create an new SMS and noting else? The current hardware is fine for the G900 and keeps it in a decent price bracket.

Unless you know what the new UIQ phone is supposed to be capable of, you can't really comment on the processor being old or whatever, since you have to know if the hardware is suited for the software and vice versa.

To be honest, the G900/G700 are very good and capable phones. Business users would want a qwerty, Wifi, GPS etc. which is not beyond and I don't see how a new processor will be of much use. At the moment, it seems like they just want to up the numbers like the camera which is just delaying the release of a phone which we know how the UI will be. I doubt there will much innovation at all but a businessman would want a stable and capable phone, looking beyond processor speed and so on.

should release something, even if Paris was released it would do well (at the right price) so why delay. There would be a huge customer shift to different companies if this UIQ is not released in time for Christmas.
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Posted: 2008-08-17 17:29:05
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^^^
That is why I wrote "may be" as no one knows for sure if there'll be any more UIQ devices. At this stage it no longer is about what users may or may not use, it is about SE showing they can compete.

Besides, the P series was never the core business of the company.
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Posted: 2008-08-17 17:51:04
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