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Hawk12 Posts: > 500


On 2023-08-30 22:16:56, xpr wrote:

On 2023-08-30 21:28:56, cool_sauce wrote:
PRO lines have happened whenever Sony had some pricey flagship technology they wanted to trickle down into the regular 1 by using more massive produced components. Current 1V does pretty much everything PRO/PRO-I can but with different hardware. 1V can even record external video which is something original PRO can't despite hdmi connection.

I guess Sony kind of ran out of ideas for PROs but I would assume next year will be very different than past three years for Xperia. I would be surprised if we see another 5 series phone ever again and I'm betting on heavy refresh of 1 with updated sensors across the board and display.

What trickled down from Pro-i? Not the sensor, not the glass...

I think if the would make a new Pro model with all sensors being Exmor T with nicer lenses and variable aperture for all.

BTW, does 1V take 12 bit stills?



anyone gonna waste time watching the press? I think it is 3 am for USA east coast.


5v is "so interesting" that nobody has bothered to post anything anywhere about it, like all specs and price.

[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-08-31 23:52 ]

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Posted: 2023-08-31 18:17:27
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DentyCracker Posts: 116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug1RSgWqbY8
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Posted: 2023-09-01 07:26:59
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cool_sauce Posts: 331

All video resolutions in BASIC mode. It took them only five years to do so.

They kill Album app but then re-introduce Movie Creator app as Video Creator which does the Album thing by listing your videos. What's next? They are going to re-introduce Sketch with different name?

Once again Cinema Pro gets zero tweaks and updates. Their stubbornness to introduce continuous focus into the app is mind blowing. When you are shooting for the real movie and it requires moving camera there is a focus puller by your side to make sure the subject is always in focus no matter what camera does.
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Posted: 2023-09-01 09:13:38
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Well, looks like PM-142xBV and PM-145xBV are either other phones canceled or they are regional variants of any of the three. Guess we should go to 2024, right?

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Posted: 2023-09-01 09:21:24
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500


On 2023-09-01 09:13:38, cool_sauce wrote:
All video resolutions in BASIC mode. It took them only five years to do so.

They kill Album app but then re-introduce Movie Creator app as Video Creator which does the Album thing by listing your videos. What's next? They are going to re-introduce Sketch with different name?

Once again Cinema Pro gets zero tweaks and updates. Their stubbornness to introduce continuous focus into the app is mind blowing. When you are shooting for the real movie and it requires moving camera there is a focus puller by your side to make sure the subject is always in focus no matter what camera does.



WDR mode now has basic steadyshot, 1v does not have this. Only after android 14 update I suppose.
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Posted: 2023-09-01 11:41:28
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cool_sauce Posts: 331


On 2023-09-01 11:41:28, Hawk12 wrote:

On 2023-09-01 09:13:38, cool_sauce wrote:
All video resolutions in BASIC mode. It took them only five years to do so.

They kill Album app but then re-introduce Movie Creator app as Video Creator which does the Album thing by listing your videos. What's next? They are going to re-introduce Sketch with different name?

Once again Cinema Pro gets zero tweaks and updates. Their stubbornness to introduce continuous focus into the app is mind blowing. When you are shooting for the real movie and it requires moving camera there is a focus puller by your side to make sure the subject is always in focus no matter what camera does.



WDR mode now has basic steadyshot, 1v does not have this. Only after android 14 update I suppose.


Oh yeah? Well that's a really good thing. But then again what did limit them to implement it into 1/5 IV as well? SoC low level features? Burst HDR stacking photo mode has object tracking so why they couldn't use it for video as well?
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Posted: 2023-09-01 17:35:39
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500


On 2023-09-01 17:35:39, cool_sauce wrote:

On 2023-09-01 11:41:28, Hawk12 wrote:

On 2023-09-01 09:13:38, cool_sauce wrote:
All video resolutions in BASIC mode. It took them only five years to do so.

They kill Album app but then re-introduce Movie Creator app as Video Creator which does the Album thing by listing your videos. What's next? They are going to re-introduce Sketch with different name?

Once again Cinema Pro gets zero tweaks and updates. Their stubbornness to introduce continuous focus into the app is mind blowing. When you are shooting for the real movie and it requires moving camera there is a focus puller by your side to make sure the subject is always in focus no matter what camera does.



WDR mode now has basic steadyshot, 1v does not have this. Only after android 14 update I suppose.


Oh yeah? Well that's a really good thing. But then again what did limit them to implement it into 1/5 IV as well? SoC low level features? Burst HDR stacking photo mode has object tracking so why they couldn't use it for video as well?




Video is more demanding than photo.
Just look at cameras. They can overheat while doing video, but you can take photos until battery dies.
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Posted: 2023-09-01 19:43:16
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tai020381 Posts: > 500

Anybody creating Xperia 5V topic?
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Posted: 2023-09-02 16:27:30
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500


On 2023-09-02 16:27:30, tai020381 wrote:
Anybody creating Xperia 5V topic?



not worth the time. Better focus on 1 vi
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Posted: 2023-09-02 17:19:05
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cool_sauce Posts: 331

I have to say I was wrong about 5IV zoom lens vs 5V 2x crop. 2x crop on 5V is absolute garbage compared to super tiny telephoto sensor on 5IV. By comparing images on gsmarena there is clear lack of texture on all 2x crop images of 5V. What a shit show. And not only that, they also gave 5V display frame of 10V so it has thicker side bezels compared to 5IV. And not only that but some Taiwan guy did the 5IV vs 5V comparison and 5V main camera is so super HDR looking compared to 5IV which burns highlights but it looks a lot more natural. 5V main camera casts object colors on white walls, makes skin tones too yellow and so on. 5IV does none of that.

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=569&t=6838403
Check out the photo of a girl sitting in a purple chair, 5V casts purple color on a wall, floor while upper wall and white doors are yellow. QB sensors have a really hard time keeping white as close to white as possible.
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Posted: 2023-09-02 22:26:16
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