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I have used 3G Technology now for the last 3 years, (An Early Adapter of 3G)
And So far its the bigest and best thing for Mobiles.
However yes that are downsides. When using 3g on your mobile (Video Calling or normal calling) Battery does drain quicker this is how the technology works currenlty, however so far this is improving all the time.
I Use Orange 3G and so far have been very impressed. The network is getting bigger every monh, I know get 3g coverage in the country side where i have never had it before. I also use o2 3g and can say that this is getting better, but no where nearly as big as Orange or the other networks.
I use 3g for video calling, data, emails and mms. Its so much faster in every respect
Is there anything i don't like. No not really. Battery life i would say for what i use is good (SE K800i) However I did have a Nokia N80 and the battery life on there was shocking. You needed to carry a car battery round with you all the time.
What you have to remember tho why the battery drains faster than a normal 2g phone.
When you have 3G Signal you phone will also look for a 2G signal as a back up. So if you are making a call, you lose the 3g signal and transfer over to 2g like you never knew anything was happening.
Never had a problem wih oranges 3g transfer, However i cant say the same about o2 3g to 2g warm transfer.
If you live in the uk where you have no 3g, your phone will work harder to look for one thus your battery will not last as long. (The phone was designed and built for 3g)
This is an example of battery life
you make a call on the 3g network (voice call only)
The phone still looks for a 2g signal (Making the phone work twice as hard)
If the phone then goes automaticaly trasnfers to the 2g network the phone stops looking for the 3g as it knows it isnt required so making the phone only use the normal battery life.
You turn the phone onto 2g only, the phone never searchs for the 3g network and so saves on battery life.
Also there are other factors involved. If you live in a country where you live near mobile phone mast, the phone will hardly use any battery as it knows it has near to 100% perfect signal strength.
You live in a part of the country where the signal is poor, The phone works harder to look for a better signal and keep hold of the poor signal it has.
i luv 3g and cant wait for 4g which isnt all that far away.
@alrodlop35 Regarding your country, Currenlty there is no agreements or any new agreements regarding 3g in your country.
The problem is that where you live had a different way of using your mobile phones and the networks i beleive didnt follow the GSM route with most of the world.
The GSM networks in Colombia are still in there early stages I beleive your youngest network is only 4 year old.
The 3G has to have a special licence then from your goverment and i know the as you use 850mhz/1900mhz you will gain 1900mhz 3g technology.
Again rest of the world except USA for 3G uses 2100mhz, and i beleive that there are not many phones out there for the 1900mhz 3G band.
Hope this helps.
@Prom1
Regarding Canada, This is down to how people over your side of the pond use there phones.
Europe tend to use Data and SMS, however USA and Canada generaly use PTT (Push to Talk) and voice more.
Its a Culture difference.
I can remeber when i first went to the USA with my first Camera phone, Well i had people coming up to me asking me to look at it and asking me what i was doing with my phone.
I know when i was in the states in Dec I was in the local Mobile shops and was browsing when the sales staff new i was from england they were asking me what phones we had.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-01-23 22:40 ]
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Posted: 2007-01-23 23:24:05
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@darrengf
Sorry but i have to disagree with you on my phone a Nokia N93 i can choose UMTS, GSM or Dual mode. So as i am with T-Mobile and mainly in London i can select UMTS and have an excellent 3G signal without my phone constantly searching for both GSM and 3G signals. maybe that's why i have such good battery life as it doesn't constantly search for signals.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-01-23 23:46:46
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@Dogmann
As the N93 is a smart phone like the P990 you are able to choose GSM, UMTS or Both.
None Smart like the k800i allows you to choose GSM+UMTS or GSM only.
However some networks (Three) remove the function altogether so you are not able to choose what band you want.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-01-23 22:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-01-23 23:56:56
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I manage to OWN some 3G fones in the past (N70, K800, K600, K608i . . .) and I can say that I rarely USE the fone's - 3G feature (only ONCE I guess
). The RATE of usin' the VIDEO CALL and LIVE CALL at one my my end's NETWORKS charges the same . . . so, practicality wise, might as well USE the Video Call - right
But the problem is . . . 3G handsets still cost a BIT expensive thatn the normal ones . . . given some more time, everybody can afford one . . . and I am very OPTIMISTIC that Video Calling will become as ORDINARY as sending: SMS or MMS . . . in a few year's time.
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Posted: 2007-01-24 00:23:34
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@darrengf
I wasn't really aware of this issue because I'm not very interested in having 3G. My mom sure would love it though.
I know former OLA (now Tigo) was researching implementing 3G but it's just not viable in a country where more than 70% of users are on a pre-pay account and use very low end handsets. Also since they've been absorbed they're focusing on the low end of the market for people with limited budget.
I also don't think the coverage could be any good since the country has so many mountains and remote places cell signal can't reach.
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Posted: 2007-01-24 00:28:35
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Quote:I also don't think the coverage could be any good since the country has so many mountains and remote places cell signal can't reach.I'm living in Switzerland and we really have a lot of mountains, too (60% of the country is covered by mountains) and the 3G coverage already reaches 90% of the population. So that's no excuse
... at least from a technical standpoint. Of course it is expensive to build a suitable network. That might be the problem.
As for other aspects of 3G: I very often use it for data (via notebook in the train etc.) browsing MMS. Very rarely for videocall - that's not an killer-applications. Despite the fact, that the rates are the same as for voice, I almost never use it.
The tarifs for 3G-data are the same as for 2G or 2.5G data, and there even are reasonable flat-rate plans. So the acceptance of 3G depends on 3 reasons:
1. 3G phones available for reasonable prices
2. Reasonalbe prices for data or some flatrate-plans
3. 3G Wa/WML/HTML services that make sense
Some countries and operators do have this others don't. In some countries customers just don't care that much about all this. In the US for example SMS and MMS are rarely used - but many there are fond of PTT - which is absolutely no issue here. For me - I definitely don't want PTT, the normal calling procedure is perfectly ok. I don't see any reason for PTT to exist, but maybe I don't get the point of it - where is the advantage of that? If someone wants to contact me he can simply call me.
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Posted: 2007-01-24 09:11:19
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I find 3G good for downloading music to the phone and for internet connection to laptop. Video calling is good if you can find someone with another 3G phone to call...
Alot of the 3G services are unnecessary and are simple blatant revenue gathering.
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Posted: 2007-01-25 02:53:44
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What I don't understand is why people buy a 3G phone and then immediately switches the 3G off to save battery. Turn the phone off entierly, and the battery will last even longer ! Oh, you mean you cant make phone calls when the phone's off? Well, there are certain parts of the functionality of the phone that you loose if you turn the 3G off too. There are many phones on the market without 3G but with similar functionality in other aspects (compare K800i vs. K790i, for example) and sometimes to a lower price, so why buy something that you don't use?
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Posted: 2007-01-25 09:18:34
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I buy camera phones but almost never take pictures with the camera
actually I rarely use the music player either
perhaps some people prefer the style of, say, the K800 over other non 3g alternatives
is it really for us to judge other peoples choices?
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Posted: 2007-01-25 09:23:19
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On 2007-01-25 09:23:19, masseur wrote:
I buy camera phones but almost never take pictures with the camera
actually I rarely use the music player either
perhaps some people prefer the style of, say, the K800 over other non 3g alternatives
is it really for us to judge other peoples choices?
I can buy that argument up to a certain point. For example, my car is supposed to have a top speed of about 200 Km/h, I think, and the motorcycle I owned many years ago was able to go over 250 Km/h, but the maximum allowed speed on any public road here in Sweden where I live is far much lower, and I tend to follow the speed limits (at least almost
) for many reasons.
For telephone buyers, many people tend to be more attracted to design and coloring of the handsets than of the functionality. (I don't understand why someone would buy a K800i for that reason though, imho, it's almost ugly, even though I own one) A couple of years ago, there was an investigation made and it was a remarkably large percentage of owners of GPRS and WAP enabled phones that did not even know how to send an SMS messag. I suspect that for many people, 3G is only something that consumes the battery power and does not add any gain.
Much of this is probably due to technical reasons and that it is too difficult for some to set up everything correctly, and the only thing you can do is to pity those for what they miss.
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Posted: 2007-01-26 12:50:10
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